Interflug Ilyushin Il-62 in Stölln

When exploring the tranquil country around Berlin, it is not unusual to find some relics from WWII and the Cold War era, like the Soviet war monuments, memorials (see for example here), and even former Soviet airbases and bunkers (see for example here). These sites are often not much publicized though, nor that much visible to a little-attentive eye of a modern tourist. Some exceptions exist however, like the case of the massive Ilyushin Il-62, a quintessential Cold War liner designed in the Soviet Union, that you can find by the foot of a low-rising hill, in the super-small town of Stölln, itself part of the small town of Göllenberg, about 50 miles northwest of Berlin.

The reason for having this very aircraft in this exact position is definitely not mere chance. The history of Gollenberg and of its small hillis inextricably bound to the name of one of the most influential pioneers of human flight, Otto Lilienthal. Well before the flight of the Wright brothers’ self-propelled Flyer, which took place in Kitty Hawk, NC, in 1903, this German gentleman experimented with single-seat gliders, understanding the basics of aerodynamic properties and construction of fixed-wings, as well as the stabilizing effect of tail empennages placed to the back of the aircraft. Actually, compared to the forward-placed horizontal control surfaces proposed by the Wright brothers, Lilienthal’s concept turned out better performing, and soon became the standard of aircraft design to these days.

Lilienthal’s experimental flights took place mostly in the 1890s, employing the small hill as a launch point for his own un-propelled machines. Actually, it was in Stölln that he flew for the last time, when he fatally crashed in 1896.

About 90 years later, in Spring 1988, the national carrier of the German Democratic Republic (GDR, or DDR), Interflug, was entering a new phase in its life cycle – eventually, this would turn to be the last phase. A transition to the the Airbus A310, from a fleet historically dominated by Soviet designs, meant that in particular the Ilyushin Il-18 and Il-62, the mainstay of the company’s long-range segment, was scheduled for withdrawal.

It was by the action of the then-mayor of the small town of Stölln, Mrs. Sybille Heling, that the idea first surfaced of celebrating Lilienthal’s legacy with a monument, in the form of a big aircraft put on display. Contacts with the management of Interflug turned out very productive, and a deal was reached where an Il-62 would be donated by the state-owned Interflug to the local municipality, provided the latter could prepare a location for its landing! An embryonic location existed, in the form of a local grassy airfield – nothing to do with a 100+ tonnes, four-jet liner. However, the chief Il-62 pilot of Interflug, Heinz-Dieter Kallbach, professionally started to draft a mission plan. The Il-62, marked DDR-SEG, was stripped of the interior, the APU, the tail-cone safety wheel, and the water ballast it usually flew with in the front belly. This reduced the minimum weight by a few tonnes, down to about 75 tons. The aircraft would take-off for one last time from Berlin Schönefeld (then the commercial airport of the eastern sector of Berlin, now the only airport of Berlin, titled to former chancellor Willy Brandt). A very short hop to its final resting place, the flight required minimum fuel weight. Even so, the 900 m long runway remained quite a challenge.

On October 23rd, 1989, coincidentally just days prior to the collapse of the Wall in Berlin, the aircraft embarked on this one-of-a-kind mission. After two low-level passes, the machine finally approached the runway, reportedly engaging thrust-reverser on two of the four engines seconds before actual touch-down, so as to have inverted thrust available immediately after landing. The aircraft approached the threshold almost at stall speed, to reduce the ground run, which turned out to be 800 m, just short of the declared runway length. Despite the thick cloud of dust engulfing it, the aircraft had landed safely, and even managed to reach its final parking spot by taxing on its own engines!

Christened Lady Agnes in honor of Lilienthal’s wife, the Il-62 makes for an easy to spot, hard to forget icon in the middle of Brandenburg’s countryside. It is the centerpiece of a museum dedicated to Interflug, managed by a local society also preserving the legacy of Otto Lilienthal’s experiments in the area. Actually, the museum is also a trailhead for a nice walk to the top of the hill where Lilienthal used to start on his own flights.

The photographs in this post are from a visit to the site in the Summer of 2024.

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The aircraft and Interflug museum can be approached from a parking nearby, along a grassy path. The site is visibly cared for with a good deal of effort, and the aircraft is now surrounded by a nice garden. Actually, the small airfield which allowed the historical flight of DDR-SEG to take place is still there – a local touristic airfield with very little traffic – and the location makes for a gathering place for those flying in.

The design of the Il-62, with a seldom-seen all-back four jet configuration (notable similar designs are the Vickers VC-10, which shared a similar long-range mission with the Il-62, and the much smaller Lockheed JetStar early executive jet), is pure 1960 vintage. The engines are four Soviet-designed Soloviev D30 low-bypass turbofans, more efficient than other pure turbojet options, yet dramatically fuel-thirsty for the oil price of the 1980s – this was a major contribution to the demise of this configuration, where more efficient but much larger high-bypass turbofan engines could not be fitted in the rear-mounted nacelles.

The emblems of Interflug and of the GDR are still proudly in place, similar to the original marks. The writing ‘Lady Agnes’ is apocryphal, yet surely justified by the devotion the adoptive family of this very aircraft is pouring in its maintenance.

The inside has been partly preserved. In particular, the galleys, the cockpit and a section of the passenger’s cabin are preserved in their original appearance.

Ilyushin aircraft were made in Kazan, today’s Russia, and all labels are basically only in Russian language.

A section of the passenger’s cabin has been converted into a very interesting exhibition, a real mecca for hunters of airline memorabilia. Among the items on display are original branded convenience kits and trays and dishes for onboard meal service.

Advertisement from the days of operations is also on display. Traveling within the USSR-led communist bloc by air was an affordable experience for middle-level workers, especially towards highly touristic locations like Slovakia in the winter and Bulgaria or Hungary in the summer.

However, even farther communist destinations like Cuba, Vietnam, China and Congo were part of the network of Interflug. Additional memorabilia items include ornamental vases, on-board safety instructions, photographs from the days of operation, and a very nice technical drawing of the aircraft.

Upon leaving the cabin, you are offered a convenient view of the cockpit, with a dashboard in the typical lurid Soviet green. A completely analog panel imposed a significant work-load to the pilot. This aircraft type was originally piloted by nothing less than five crew. By reviewing the operational procedures, this was later reduced to four.

Back on the ground, it is possible to spot a specially-painted original Trabant. A walk-around the aircraft reveals several labels in Russian, and generally a very good state of preservation, considering the aircraft is parked outside.

The museum of Interflug is dominated on one side by the uniforms of pilots, onboard crew and technicians of this airline.

Then a display of artifacts and memorabilia retraces the history of this airline. Interestingly, some Deutsche Lufthansa tickets and old-fashioned likewise branded ads can be spotted. To a careful eye, these reveal an apparently incoherent belonging of Deutsche Lufthansa – with the same symbol of today’s major German carrier, a heron – to the German Democratic Republic. Actually, soon after the post-war liquidation of the original pre-WWII Deutsche Lufthansa in 1951, the name and trademark were registered again by the then-established Federal Republic of Germany, just prior to the company’s resumed flight operations in the 1950s. At the same time, on the communist side of the Iron Curtain, the newly-founded national carrier of the German Democratic Republic also started operations, with exactly the same name as its West-German counterpart. This explains the apparent mismatch of the name Deutsche Lufthansa on GDR tickets and flight networks.

Clearly, a legal claim was started over this point by the West-German Lufthansa, which had registered the brand and trademark at a fee. Interflug was the result of the fight. Founded as a ghost company by the GDR government, just in case they lost the right to fly under the name ‘Deutsche Lufthansa’, when this actually happened, Interflug immediately absorbed the assets of the East-German Deutsche Lufthansa, and flight operations became now entitled to Interflug. By the early 1960s, Interflug and Lufthansa were the national carriers of the GDR and FRG respectively, and this was to be until the demise of the GDR, when German reunification played havoc within the Interflug management. State-owned Interflug ceased operations and was liquidated in 1991, the three A310 it owned at that time going to the German government as state aircraft.

The maps of international destinations reached by Interflug is clearly polarized towards friend locations within Soviet influence.

The historical photographs witness the various types of aircraft employed by Interflug, which included agricultural aircraft and small models for air surveillance and photographing operations, or even some helicopters.

The portraits of aircraft and airports from the Cold War years will appeal to everybody with an interest or fascination for that age.

Upon leaving the museum, you may take a trail to the top of the hill where Otto Lilienthal experimented with his own gliders. The trail is scattered with memorials and tables retracing the history of the pioneer.

The point of his fatal crash in 1896 is marked with a commemorative stone.

By the opposite head of the trail, on the other side of the low-rising hill (10 minutes by walk from the main parking and Interflug museum, if not climbing uphill) you can find an interesting work of art from the GDR era (1986). This is called Ikarus, and was crafted by the artist Erhard Grüttner.

Getting there and visiting

The location is not much advertised, yet it is very convenient to reach by car. The exact address is Am Gollenberg 10, 14728 Gollenberg. It is located 50 miles northwest of Berlin, and can be neared from Friesack, on the route B5 from the capital. A large parking can be found on site, as well as a children’s playground. The location is managed by the Otto-Lilienthal-Verein (which translates into ‘Otto Lilienthal Society’). Their professional website (in German only) can be found here. It provides full information on the opening times. Notably, an indoor exhibition dedicated to Lilienthal is managed by the same society, and is located in the nearby village of Gollenberg.

A visit to the aircraft and museum, where all descriptions are in German only, yet rather self-explaining, may take 45 minutes to 1 hour. An additional round tour along the trail to the top of the hill, and back at base level, may take 45 minutes more.

Access to the aircraft and exhibition is at a fee (cash only, as typical to many locations in Germany), whereas walking the trail is free of charge.

Jüterbog/Niedergörsdorf – Abandoned Flight Academy in the GDR

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The area around the small town of Jüterbog – located 60 miles south of Berlin – has a long military tradition, with storages, barracks and training installations in place since the years of the Kaiser and Bismarck, about mid-19th century.

The region was selected for building one of the first flight academies in Germany before WWI, and flight activities with airships and other exotic flying material from the early age of aviation took place in those years.

Much was forcibly dismantled following the defeat of Germany in 1918, but the place regained primary attention with the advent of Hitler and the Nazi party to power. Among the various military installations built in the area, a modern flight academy was erected anew – baptized ‘Fliegertechnische Schule Niedergörsdorf’.

Initial technical training for both ground and flying staff of the Luftwaffe was imparted here until the break out of WWII and the conquest of Poland, when the academy moved to Warsaw.

The extensive group of buildings in Jüterbog retained a primary role in the advanced training of flight officers and engineers, aircraft and engine technicians. Technical personnel were trained to operate innovative weapon systems, in collaboration with research centers of the Luftwaffe.

With the end of the war the region fell under Soviet rule, and the military facilities – including the academy, which survived the war largely intact – were reassigned to various functions.

Info is available in less detail about this part of the story, as typical with military bases in the territories occupied by the Soviets… Part of the buildings of the academy were used again for training staff of tank divisions, but also a KGB station was reportedly activated there. As with most Soviet installations, it was given back to reunified Germany by 1994.

The place is since then abandoned, but differently from other sites formerly managed by the Soviets, it has been inscribed in the registry of landmark buildings, being an interesting specimen of Nazi military architecture.

Following WWII, the nearby airbase of Jüterbog – about a mile south of the academy complex – was operated both by East German (GDR) and Soviet air combat groups, until the Russians left in 1992. Soon after, the airport was permanently closed and partly dismantled. Unlike other Soviet bases in the GDR, flying units there never upgraded to MiG-29, so the aircraft shelters you can see there are of the oldest types.

I would suggest visiting the site for two reasons, a) the uniqueness of the architectural composition, with much of what you see dating back from the Nazi era – you can clearly notice the typical Nazi ‘sheer grandeur’, differing from the often poor and shabby Soviet military architecture… b) the very famous mural of the Soviet Soldier, which apart from the result of a little attack by an ignorant writer, is still in an almost perfect shape.

The following photographs were taken in late August 2016.

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Niedergörsdorf Flight Academy

It should be pointed out that this place is actually off-limits, and there are clear prohibition signs at least on the front gate. Furthermore, it is not an isolated installation, but surrounded by other buildings, close to a small but active railway station and not far from a supermarket. Accessing the site via the blocked main gate is clearly not possible.

Finding an easy way in is not difficult, but standing to the signs on the gate, the place is also actively guarded, so you should be quick and concentrated when moving around. In order to shorten your time in, I suggest turning your attention to the northernmost part of the site.

Walking along the northern perimeter inside the base some Cold War, not very artistically significant murals can be spotted on the external wall made of the usual Soviet concrete slabs.

From there you can easily reach the semicircular building of the grand hall, probably the most notable of the base, and the one where the famous mural of the Soviet Soldier is.

When moving around the corner from the back to the front façade of the building, you find yourself on the road leading to the blocked main gate. You may be spotted from outside the base, so be careful.

Once in the area in front of the semicircular building, you can see to the south a nice perspective of the other buildings of the academy, surrounding a large inner court.

The inside of the main semicircular building – which should not be accessed – is in a state of disrepair.

There are two main floors and a less interesting third attic floor.

The beautiful mural of the Soviet Soldier can be easily found close to the stairs.

Here are some other details of this nice and sober example of Soviet monumental art.

Many other parts of the lower floors are covered in painted decorations, but these were probably of lower quality with respect to the Soviet Soldier – which appears to be a real fresco – and are today falling from the walls.

Another highlight of the visit to this building is the grand theatre. You should consider going with a tripod and/or a powerful torchlight for getting better photos than these, for the room is totally dark. Very creepy, btw…!

On the former part of the sports arena to the west of the building complex it is possible to spot a new little gym. Possibly to your surprise you will find the place is still run by a sporting club – this is nice, also for getting a better idea of how the place looked like when it was an active training center. On the cons side, walking around undercover is not easy, and maybe you are violating a private property ‘no trespassing’ instruction – even though I didn’t notice any.

An interesting part of the sports arena is the abandoned pool, which I guess was already part of the Nazi construction plan too – check photographs of postcards of the time on the Internet.

To get an impression of the complex from above, you may have a look to aerial pictures taken during a dedicated flight, reported here.

Jüterbog Airbase

A quick visit to the airbase south of the academy can reveal some interesting sights, including aircraft shelters from the early Cold War era which have been converted to hay storages or garages for agricultural vehicles. Many former taxiways can be freely accessed by car, some of them have been turned into ‘official’ roads. Also the apron in front of the large maintainance hangars can be accessed with a car with no restriction.

A small aeroclub operates with trikes from a new narrow grass runway in the northwestern part of the field, so access to this part of the field is restricted. Interestingly, much of the external fence with barbed wire is still in place around this area.

Other activities on site include go-karting. To the east of the base, part of the shelters are occupied by a private collection – Shelter Albrecht – centered on WWII and Cold War relics (covered in this chapter).

For a comprehensive set of aerial pictures of the base, taken during a flight over the area, have a look to this post.

Compared to other Soviet bases in East Germany, Jüterbog doesn’t offer much to the curious urban explorer today. Yet due to the vicinity of the flight academy it’s surely worth a visit. Furthermore, the countryside around is nice – apart from the unpleasant sight of a real forest of wind turbines! – so you may choose to have a walk around just for pleasure.

The area of Jüterbog is actually full of other interesting sites related to military history, documented in this post.

Getting there and moving around

Reaching the former flight academy is an easy task. The main gate is on Kastanienallee, Niedergörsdorf, and it can be accessed with a 0.1 miles walk from the Altes Lager railway station, again in Niedergorsdorf, Brandenburg. There is a convenient small parking besides the railway station. In case you want to explore the site, I would suggest considering this as a trailhead.

The area of Niedergörsdorf and Jüterbog can be reached in about 1 h 15 min from downtown Berlin by car. This is my preferred way for moving around – I hate having tight schedules when exploring! – but reaching the ‘operational zone’ by train from Berlin would take probably a bit less.

For visiting the base at Jüterbog you will need a car. Driving on the former taxiways is part of the fun when touring the base!

There are aircraft shelters both on the northern and southern sides of the runway, which is oriented in an east-western direction. The most convenient to come close to are those on the northern side, but be careful not to interfere with the many private businesses around. Barb wire fence can be found on the northwestern corner of the base.

I would suggest having a quick look at the Google map of the area for deciding how to move around. I wouldn’t rate these two ‘attractions’ difficult to visit in terms of physical barriers or when it comes to keeping the right course.

The Aerospace Valley

Among the most intriguing places for aviation enthusiasts, the ‘Aerospace Valley’ is the name attributed to the flat desert area extending North of the town of Palmdale, which can be reached with an about 70 miles drive north of central LA along N.14.

This large desert basin, which extends further north to Mojave, some 35 miles from Palmdale on N.14, encompasses two installations of major relevance for the history of aeronautics and for todays air power research, namely Edwards AFB and the close-related Plant 42.

The former has been developed for decades basically with aircraft testing in mind, and is located on the dry Rogers Lake. Today it is still an active AFB, home of the 412th Test Wing and other units. It is also operating a NASA research center named after the first ever moon-walker Niels Armstrong. The installation has more than ten runways, some of them paved in sand. Visiting is obviously prohibited – there used to be planned visits, but this appears to be not any more the case today. This site is really huge, and would offer many interesting sights to the enthusiast, including some relics from the past abandoned in the desert far from the main buildings of the base – some buildings and runway have moved over time for convenience and trying to cope with the natural movements of the desert sand, altering the slope and shape of the dry lake basin.

Obviously, the base is constantly guarded, so you may come close to it but you cannot really get close to what is in it without an authorization. In any case, I found exciting just being around where the sound barrier was passed by Chuck Yeager in 1947, and if you like deserts of the westernmost part of the country, touring this area would be interesting just for the natural setting – and even more if you are an aeronautic-minded person.

Plant 42 is actually not a totally separated entity from Edwards AFB. It is a unique installation, where some of the most iconic aircraft factories in the history of US military airpower – Lockheed ‘Skunk Works’ division and Northrop-Grumman – have some of their production and assembly hangars. These are all around the same airport, which is not an airbase – in the sense it’s not home to any units of the USAF – but is nonetheless owned by the Government and leased to the companies operating on it. Today Plant 42 is configured to supply and support test aircraft operated at Edwards AFB.

There is also the NASA Dryden research center installed on the premises of this airport, which is physically located on Plant 42 but is nonetheless administrated by Edwards AFB.

Even though Lockheed moved its Skunk Works division here only after the assembly of all exemplars of the SR-71 well in the Eighties, it was here that during the last decade of the Cold War the Blackbird fleet underwent maintenance. Also the reactivation of the U-2 production line with the TR-1 in the years of the Reagan administration implied production of new aircraft was carried out here.

Other most notable items produced here include the Space Shuttle orbiters – the hangar for their assembly is still standing and can be clearly spotted. Northrop produced here the world-famous F-5, before merging with Grumman. Today Northrop-Grumman, Lockheed and Boeing have active support lines here.

As you see, the area has been a focal point for aeronautics since long, fully justifying the name of ‘Aerospace Valley’.

But it’s not over. There are more sights of the kind around. Mojave has been for long a place for storing aircraft of all sorts and size – a properly sized airport, capable of operating a Boeing 747, obviously being a promptly answered necessity for companies in that business – taking advantage of the dry climate of the Californian desert. Literally tens of large liners of all sorts can be found parked waiting for reactivation, resale or scrap on the apron of Mojave airport. In more recent years, the place has grown to higher fame for being used as a base for space tourism operations. Consequently, the airport has been proudly renamed ‘Mojave Space Port’.

The following photographs from these and other sites in the Aerospace Valley have been taken during a visit in summer 2014.

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Aerospace Valley – View and Hangars

There is a panorama point with a placard approaching Palmdale from N.14. From there you can see Palmdale and reach beyond to Plant 42.

Among the hangars scattered around the area of the airport in Plant 42, it is possible to see the Boeing facilities, with new Boeing liners around. One of Boeing’s hangars has an asymmetric roof. This is where all Space Shuttles were built, the higher part of the roof made to fit the tall tail of the orbiter. The name ‘Northrop-Grumman’ can be seen standing above the airside door of probably the largest hangar of all. Both Boeing and Northrop-Grumman occupy the northern part of the airport.

The emblem of the ‘Skunk Works’ can be spotted on the Lockheed-Martin hangar to the south-west of the complex. Further East the NASA Dryden facilities occupy the south-eastern part of Plant 42.

Skunk Works

In front of the gate of Lockheed ‘Skunk Works’ on Plant 42, at the end of 15th St. E in Palmdale, it’s possible to reach a small park with an F-16A and an F-104N, both Lockheed designs. These exemplars were used for testing by NASA Dryden research center, and are actually on loan from NASA Dryden. The F-16A is the only civil registered aircraft of the type, where the F-104N, one out of three specifically designed for NASA for pilot’s proficiency and for use as chase aircraft, logged more than 4000 hours flying for NASA.

Note: I involuntarily triggered a security inspection having ventured by car on the road running along the Lockheed hangar nearby the gate – the road is called Lockheed way. This is probably because the road is private property of Lockheed – even though it runs along the outer side of the fence. I was spotted and reached by pickups of Lockheed security – nothing bad, but better avoiding this if you can. The hangar with the Skunk Works emblem can be photographed from a little further, near the railway track to the west of the airport.

NASA Dryden

Two sights attracted my attention on the apron of Plant 42. Both could be clearly spotted from 40th St. E in Palmdale, running along the eastern side of the plant. Placidly parked on the apron where NASA Douglas DC-8 – as far as I know the only one still operated by NASA, which is using it for satellite testing, new sensor testing, space vehicle telemetry and atmospheric studies – and the massive Space Shuttle Carrier N911NA. Today the latter is on permanent display in Palmdale, the photos were taken before it was prepared for display. This is one of only two Boeing 747 converted for transporting the orbiter, the other (N905NA) being in Houston.

The DC-8 is being operated by NASA Armstrong research center, from the ‘neighbor’ airbase of Edwards, but I found it at NASA Dryden.

Note: photographs of what is on the apron of Plant 42 from the distance are virtually impossible during the day due to excessive thermal turbulence close to the ground. Consider going near sunset for avoiding such annoying effect.

Blackbird Airpark

This spectacular exhibition can be easily reached driving on E Ave. P, to the South of Plant 42, Palmdale (website here). It can be clearly spotted from the road. The most peculiar display is to the front of the small museum building, and is composed of three Lockheed ‘black’ aircraft, namely an A-12, an SR-71 and a U-2. Also there are a D-21, a ramjet propelled drone mounted on a modified A-12, the engines of both the A-12 and SR-71 and of the U-2, and two different spooling mechanisms for starting up the engines of the A-12 and SR-71.

This is the only place on Earth where an A-12 and a SR-71 can be spotted together.

Close to the door of the museum building there are models of the A-12, probably built for wind tunnel testing. Inside the building, first and foremost you can find some air conditioning… there are also artifacts, videos and a nice shop with books and items about Plant 42 and the three ‘black’ aircraft outside. I personally met Bill Flanagan, who collaborates in managing the airpark on a regular basis, and is a former RSO on the SR-71 – he was very nice and told me many interesting stories about the aircraft outside on the apron. Some of the vids you can see there (they are also selling a DVD) were shot by Mr. Flanagan on duty.

Many other aircraft can be found on the Joe Davis Heritage Airpark, accessible to the back of the small museum building.

Edwards AFB

I tried to approach the area from the south (Redman and 120 St. E), knowing some relics can be spotted in the desert in the area. Unfortunately, turn back signs begin to appear much earlier than reaching the real gate of the base. I didn’t risk going further, so unfortunately I couldn’t take good pictures of the base. You can appreciate the size of the installation from the zoomed photos below.

Milestones of Flight Air Museum

This place is located in Lancaster, on the eastern side of William J. Fox Airport, close to the station of the National Guard.

Again, a very short visit – the place was closed, contrary to the opening times I had found on the web. To be honest, it looked like the museum was not actively maintained any more. Nonetheless, there were some interesting items outside the museum hangar.

The white civilian B-25 was reportedly owned by Howard Hughes. The wings have been removed, but strangely enough the tires are inflated.

Mojave Space Port

It’s not hard to spot this huge airport, to the north-east of the small town of Mojave. Access to the terminal is along Sabovich St. At the end of it you have a good and convenient spotting place close to a low fence.

When I visited, aircraft on the apron of the airport included at least three Boeing 747, a McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 and various DC-9, possibly a Boeing 720, and various other exemplars.

There are several companies operating on the airport, including parts resellers, aircraft resellers and industries connected with space flight.

Among the rare aircraft I saw around, a Lockheed TriStar operated by Orbital, a Sweden-made SAAB Draken, and an Italian Aermacchi MB326.

Leaving the area of the space port to the south, I spotted a Douglas DC-8 used as a gate guardian.

Note: expect mild security checks when spotting in the area. I was reached by car and briefly interviewed by a lady of the security service, who had noticed I was taking pictures from close to the airport fence. I explained I was just taking pictures, she said goodbye and left without further troubles.